Politics = Economics… Why Socialism Doesn’t Work
Posted by admin on July 25th, 2010
There are plenty of people who truly believe that Obama’s socialist ideas are a wonderful thing for our country. I would submit that although they feel good from a symbolic perspective, the reality is far different from the sales pitch. The most wonderful idea our country ever came up with was the idea that our rights came from God, not government. The idea that liberty and freedom reigned supreme. The idea that you can do anything you want so long as you don’t hurt other people or their property.
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July 25th, 2010 at 5:58 pm
Maybe you can define what you mean by socialism? I am not sure you are correctly applying the word.
July 25th, 2010 at 5:58 pm
100% on target. Great ‘word picture’. The action time needs focus. Just ‘getting people together to take our country back’ isn’t actionable. We can rally all we want, but the first action is, I believe, a rallying focus, an individual willing and capable of taking the highest leadership (presidential) position. Who is this?
July 25th, 2010 at 5:58 pm
Great theory… Not exactly how I see it going; There will always be those who over achieve and there will always be those who under achieve and becasue of that reason this theory ends up a wash at the end of the day.
July 25th, 2010 at 5:58 pm
right on snappy! keep it going!
July 25th, 2010 at 5:58 pm
@ricecracker96
I have a full appreciation for differing perspectives… that’s what makes us human. Thank you for your comment, I’m glad you found something useful (or at least interesting) in the video.
Peace & Wisdom Friend
July 25th, 2010 at 5:58 pm
i don’t completely agree, but this is quite an interesting video and a good point
July 25th, 2010 at 5:58 pm
@meccaturbo
Thanks for the comment.
I would like to ask something of you.
Take this simple concept with you everywhere that you go and share it with everyone that you know. Share it with people who are like minded and will spread the word themselves, and share it with people who “don’t get it” and need to understand that government simply CANNOT solve all their problems.
America created personal freedom & liberty so each of us could solve our own problems, thank God for that!
Peace Friend.
July 25th, 2010 at 5:58 pm
@meccaturbo
You just don’t know what socialism is.
Socialism has nothing to do with government, or with wellfare checks.
Capitalism is when the means of production are privately owned.
Capitalism requires a state, a state requires tax, and taxation corrupts the free market.
Socialism is when the workers control the means of production.
Socialism does not require a state.
Free market socialism or anarchism has a more free market than the corporatism we have today.
July 25th, 2010 at 5:58 pm
@spartan2600 your arguments are highly suspect because they contain sweeping generalizations, and that is no way to assess the details of a situation.
July 25th, 2010 at 5:58 pm
@meccaturbo When I said that I meant that they are inefficient to some- any degree. Some more than others. This seems patently obvious. Governments are inefficient, businesses are inefficient, even non-profits are inefficient. Humans are imperfect creatures, it only makes obvious sense that the institutions they are a part of are imperfect and inefficient as well. Even though the statement “all human institutions are inefficient” has an absolute (all), I don’t think its hard to agree with.
July 25th, 2010 at 5:58 pm
@spartan2600 you said “all human institutions are inefficient”. This is simply not true. Why don’t you put forth a list of 10 human institutions, across a broad range of “purposes” (that serve different goals) and show me how all 10 of these are inefficient. If you can do that, I might believe you, but if you can’t, I maintain my point that your have put forth an extremely silly and foolish presumption.
July 25th, 2010 at 5:58 pm
@meccaturbo Again, you don’t really have a substantive point. Why am I wrong?
July 25th, 2010 at 5:58 pm
@spartan2600 actually the one who made this video does a pretty good job of that. I’m not saying he’s right on all counts, but he’s close. You’re an extremist though….100% left, and you can never trust anyone’s argument that comes from the fringes. The truth always lies somewhere in the middle in virtually every situation.
July 25th, 2010 at 5:58 pm
@meccaturbo Then how about you tell me something substantive. How am I wrong?
July 25th, 2010 at 5:58 pm
@pulsatingremedy you are obviously seriously lacking in intelligence with a statement like that. You’re dumb, there’s no question about that.
July 25th, 2010 at 5:58 pm
@spartan2600 you are definitely incorrect about this. When I read through your postings here, I see that you speak a significant amount of nonsense yourself…in the form of unsubstantiated opinions show you to be rather “wet behind the ears”.
July 25th, 2010 at 5:58 pm
dude, great job with this video….I like what you said here. Excellent job.
July 25th, 2010 at 5:58 pm
@lasvegasdavid1
A simple approach to a complicated subject (to some people’s perspectives) on occasion will get the attention of someone you might otherwise not have reached.
I am continually astounded at the growing population of people (mostly younger) who WANT a socialist society… they actually believe their lives would be better in that environment! I think it’s the entitlement society at work.
Thanks for the comment, I need to do one on currency, the federal reserve & inflation.
July 25th, 2010 at 5:58 pm
I liked the way you dumed down the explaination so that even some of the more braid dead believers is socialism could follow it….. BTW …Great video and explaination
July 25th, 2010 at 5:58 pm
@snappy72761
The most free markets can be provided by socialist ideologies. Mutualism is a good example.
Capitalism creates the need for the state. And the state corrupts the market.
Want free markets? Socialism is the answer.
July 25th, 2010 at 5:58 pm
@pulsatingremedy
I don’t know if you mean terrible in content or quality, but regardless… people who don’t understand this basic concept of why free markets are better at solving problems than governments are destined to live in poverty under the absolute control of the people who govern them.
The free flow of capital amongst free people stimulates efficiency and creativity to an unprecedented degree; the benefits of which should be obvious to anyone who has been watching the last 200 years!
July 25th, 2010 at 5:58 pm
Terrible video.
July 25th, 2010 at 5:58 pm
@redsoviet88 Good job on the name calling. It really helps prove your point. (/sarcasm) How about this idea? Humans = desire to better their current condition (what you call greed) = work hard to earn a decent living = food and shelter for their family + luxuries. Socialism = nobody has a motive to work = economy doesn’t function = poverty for all. Why is it so hard for liberals to understand that socialism doesn’t work? We have many examples today of socialist countries… check those out.
July 25th, 2010 at 5:58 pm
@snappy72761 I am actually out of school now, have a full time job and pay my own bills. Nothing’s changed. You realize there are just as many leftists who have full time jobs, families, etc. The idea that everyone who gets into the “real world” somehow converts to a less idealistic ideology is plain nonsense.
If you are in fact a statist, I’d like to hear an argument for the state that doesn’t clearly contradict you arguments against the state.
July 25th, 2010 at 5:58 pm
@spartan2600
As for poverty, like corruption, it can never be eradicated.
The best answer to changing the “systemic causes of poverty” has already been addressed, you are living the answer, education.
You get the first 12 years at the expense of the people, if you apply yourself, you can continue up the educational ladder. If not, then you get what life always delivers to those who don’t work… it’s the natural order of things, you can no more change the outcome than the rising of the sun.